Comments on: Hidden Content Types and Hidden Site Columns http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/ No GeekSpeak on SharePoint 2007 WSS and MOSS Thu, 28 Oct 2010 17:43:07 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lisa http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-108321 Lisa Sun, 24 Oct 2010 10:25:51 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-108321 Hello, I'm using the Employee Activities Application template (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=1029807F-FD44-4704-936F-BD19A6455351&displaylang=en) and am trying to customize the Activities list to reflect two different content types. There are fields already in the Activities list I would like to include in both my other two content types. These Actitivies fields must be hidden, since I cannot find them in the site column list or select to add them to my two content types. The Activities list is based on what appears to be a hidden content type also named "Event," with the normal Event site content type as it's parent. I have already unhidden the parent Event type. When I go to edit the (sub) Event content type, only Name and Description appears in the options to edit under Settings, there is no link for group. I can see the ctype number in the url but when I try to remove the list number from the url to reflect your example above I just get a page that says "Error." Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated, thank you! Hello,

I’m using the Employee Activities Application template (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/details.aspx?FamilyId=1029807F-FD44-4704-936F-BD19A6455351&displaylang=en) and am trying to customize the Activities list to reflect two different content types. There are fields already in the Activities list I would like to include in both my other two content types. These Actitivies fields must be hidden, since I cannot find them in the site column list or select to add them to my two content types. The Activities list is based on what appears to be a hidden content type also named “Event,” with the normal Event site content type as it’s parent. I have already unhidden the parent Event type. When I go to edit the (sub) Event content type, only Name and Description appears in the options to edit under Settings, there is no link for group. I can see the ctype number in the url but when I try to remove the list number from the url to reflect your example above I just get a page that says “Error.” Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated, thank you!

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By: AntGut http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-97572 AntGut Wed, 01 Sep 2010 01:43:05 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-97572 @Brad: I made the mistake of renaming a couple of OOB/_Hidden site columns too (Title, Comment). A little hunting provides some relief/fixes: -- http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923589 -- http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/sharepointecm/thread/3da87a70-04e5-4cca-9f03-304c13425a63 -- http://www.sharepointforum.com/en-US/Bugday/archive/2007/11/05/content-types-rename-title-column-issue.aspx Not sure if renaming to the correct/original name and selecting custom group "_Hidden" works for site columns (or content types). Need to test/verify that and the above "solutions" in non-production (when I can get access). Not being a (decent) coder I would imagine the info on msdn ("http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.spfield.group.aspx") could be used to enumerate what's in the _Hidden group. BTW, everywhere I've looked emphatically recommends: leave OOB/_Hidden objects alone. Use them as they are or as Paul has done, create your own if the need is there. AntGut @Brad:

I made the mistake of renaming a couple of OOB/_Hidden site columns too (Title, Comment). A little hunting provides some relief/fixes:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/923589
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/sharepointecm/thread/3da87a70-04e5-4cca-9f03-304c13425a63
http://www.sharepointforum.com/en-US/Bugday/archive/2007/11/05/content-types-rename-title-column-issue.aspx

Not sure if renaming to the correct/original name and selecting custom group “_Hidden” works for site columns (or content types). Need to test/verify that and the above “solutions” in non-production (when I can get access).

Not being a (decent) coder I would imagine the info on msdn (”http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sharepoint.spfield.group.aspx”) could be used to enumerate what’s in the _Hidden group.

BTW, everywhere I’ve looked emphatically recommends: leave OOB/_Hidden objects alone. Use them as they are or as Paul has done, create your own if the need is there.

AntGut

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By: Brad http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-46812 Brad Wed, 17 Mar 2010 20:32:26 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-46812 I have a strange problem. In a new list content type I hade a "hidden base column" "title", Before I knew what I was doing I tried to rename it. I got an error message but it still changed. Now when I try to change it back to "Title" It just tells me no it is a reserverd column. But I since It was renamed I no longer have a "Title" column and I can't figure out how to get it back. Any suggestions? I have a strange problem. In a new list content type I hade a “hidden base column” “title”, Before I knew what I was doing I tried to rename it. I got an error message but it still changed. Now when I try to change it back to “Title” It just tells me no it is a reserverd column. But I since It was renamed I no longer have a “Title” column and I can’t figure out how to get it back.
Any suggestions?

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By: Tony http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-16736 Tony Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:02:58 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-16736 By the way, any way to get at the Recurrence column, or any of the other ones that don't have built in links available to them? By the way, any way to get at the Recurrence column, or any of the other ones that don’t have built in links available to them?

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By: Tony http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-16735 Tony Thu, 03 Sep 2009 18:01:35 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-16735 I've successfully "unhidden" several site columns EXCEP for the EnDate column. ShrePoint (2007) returns "unknown error" when I try to take the EndDate out of the _Hidden group. Thoughts? I’ve successfully “unhidden” several site columns EXCEP for the EnDate column. ShrePoint (2007) returns “unknown error” when I try to take the EndDate out of the _Hidden group. Thoughts?

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By: AutoSponge http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-11508 AutoSponge Tue, 24 Mar 2009 11:21:12 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-11508 @Catherine Again, I advise against customizing the OOB fields. End Date (internal name _EndDate) and End Time (internal name EndDate) are both valid and come OOB. EndDate is used on Event, I'm not sure about the other one. @Catherine

Again, I advise against customizing the OOB fields. End Date (internal name _EndDate) and End Time (internal name EndDate) are both valid and come OOB. EndDate is used on Event, I’m not sure about the other one.

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By: Catherine http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-11495 Catherine Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:50:23 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-11495 I am able to delete the End Date column that appears in the Base Columns group; maybe that would solve the system error? Would deleting it be safe/OK since EndDate also appears in the _Hidden group? If not, is there a different solution? I am able to delete the End Date column that appears in the Base Columns group; maybe that would solve the system error? Would deleting it be safe/OK since EndDate also appears in the _Hidden group? If not, is there a different solution?

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By: AutoSponge http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-11481 AutoSponge Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:17:40 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-11481 @Catherine If it has the same internal name (FieldID) then it's the same field. If you change that in one place (really not recommended for OOB fields) it will change EVERYWHERE if changed at the Site Column level. You should be able to change names or hidden/required at the List level. @Catherine

If it has the same internal name (FieldID) then it’s the same field. If you change that in one place (really not recommended for OOB fields) it will change EVERYWHERE if changed at the Site Column level. You should be able to change names or hidden/required at the List level.

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By: Catherine http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-11472 Catherine Fri, 20 Mar 2009 19:16:17 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-11472 For the Event content type, I am seeing an End Time column (Field ID=End Date) in the _Hidden group. But in the Site columns, Base group, I also have an End Date column. I am wondering if this is odd and might have something to do with the problem I am having at the List content type level? My list has a child Event content type; I have been able to customize the Start column name but get a system error when I try to customize the End Time column name. For the Event content type, I am seeing an End Time column (Field ID=End Date) in the _Hidden group. But in the Site columns, Base group, I also have an End Date column. I am wondering if this is odd and might have something to do with the problem I am having at the List content type level? My list has a child Event content type; I have been able to customize the Start column name but get a system error when I try to customize the End Time column name.

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By: Adam Carr http://www.endusersharepoint.com/2009/01/21/hidden-content-types-and-hidden-site-columns/comment-page-1/#comment-10655 Adam Carr Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:11:48 +0000 http://www.endusersharepoint.com/?p=1184#comment-10655 I have to say thank you yet again Paul. Your posts seem to help me solve issues time and time again. I have to say thank you yet again Paul. Your posts seem to help me solve issues time and time again.

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